shirogane-kiki:

megarowboat:

lovelylambo:

Which Megatron do you think is better? TFA Megatron or TFP Megatron? 

and no, i’m not talking about art style. I’m talking about personality. Who’s smarter? Who’s stronger? Who is a better leader? 

And if you haven’t watched BOTH TF Animated or TF Prime, please don’t comment because your views are biased if you’re only basting it on what you’ve read or heard. 

*breaks hands*

this is an interesting question (that i found late and then saved to my drafts while typing out a cartoonishly long response) ‘cuz they’re similar in some ways, but different in others (and wow what a vague description; that could apply to anything)

like! take the way that they get people to do what they want. tfp megatron favours brute force. like the way he treats starscream… and when orion pax doesn’t do what he wants, he basically just tells him to shut up—and when that fails, he threatens to beat him into submission. tfa megatron, meanwhile, is still willing to be violent: he’s needlessly rough when he grabs starscream’s wing in the first ep, and he makes an example out of starscream for his other troops upon revival, but his go to is manipulation. a particular case i will bring up bc it’s similar to the orion pax deal is the constructicons. when they start questioning him, megatron starts with force by pinning them to the wall, but he turns on the sweet voice the second he finds out what’s ailing them. and ofc there are all the other earthborns he lied to and manipulated as well.

i mean… both of those strategies work to get ppl to do what they want?? but tfp megatron is also surrounded by far more disloyal subordinates than tfa megs bc he tends to keep them around instead of just Killing Them Instantly. tfa megatron is excellent at making ppl think that helping him will get them exactly what they want, or that he is in the right. tfp megatron might have difficult with that luxury at the time of the show though, because what could he possibly offer when their planet has already died?

but hey! at least tfp megatron SORT OF listens to his subordinates, unlike tfa megatron who Never Takes Their Suggestions Into Account Unless It Means He Can Manipulate Them More. and he surrounds himself with yesmen anyway, lol. what kind of leader doesn’t listen to their people?? aaaand tfp megatron actually goes out and does things, unlike tfa megatron who sits on his throne and makes everyone else do the hard work.

both of their priorities are totally outta whack though!! tfa megatron keeps targeting detroit for no reason and that one time he waited for the defeated autobots to wake up is completely unforgivable. and heckin s/o to tfp megatron’s weird fixation on optimus prime where Nobody Else Is Allowed to kill him. in fact, the fact that they’re orbiting the planet at all and hunting down the autobots to their very last is completely wild, because there’s nothing to fight for anymore! it’s literally just his petty grudge! shouldn’t he focus on rebuilding somewhere else??

personally, i don’t think either of them should be in charge…

Agreed but Tfa meg is a guy you would grab a drink with and be chilled with along with giving you that false sense of safety, morr effective than tge whole ‘orion pax’ thing.

TfA would actually be a better leader on the evil villain scale. Staying behind to motor each mission behind the scenes is actually very smart because one the master mind is still safe in hiding and plans and orders to run the team without any problems. He doesn’t havd to listen to his teammates because they aren’t really viewed as teammates but more as underlings, although it would be more effective to listen he just doesn’t have to.

Tfa meg views his cons as an army so, this is all just one sided. ‘You listen but i don’t have to listen to you’ kinda thing. I only remember Starscream is the only one who wants to be heard the others seem fine with their roles and positions.

Tfp meg, on the other hand is a beautiful idiot. Boof. God, i love him but wmhus methods on some things are just hard to understand and get behind. Tfp meg motivates are run soully on dominance. Power through fighting is the only way for him. You can sit down and talk to him unless he is calm…or you are soundwave but you are indeed right when you say he listens to his teammates because that what he sees them as kinda. Even to starscream, which is good because starscream is smart. He is more open to their opinions which is nice.

Tfp megs is still more reckless and power hungry in a bad way so he isn’t a goid villain in a sense of smarts but he is still a decent leader on the whole team stand point just more fear of you dying when he is enraged.

Better megatron, in my opinion, is TFA Meg. He is smart and think alot of things through. Not reckless like Tfp Meg. Once again, being behind the scenes of the army and being the brain at a safe distance is the best thing to do in this kinda of situation. Him just attack Detroit is also wise. You want to take over a planet. Destroy your main problem so everything else can run smoothly in the future. Bots main base is in Detroit. Get rid of it.

theswerviest:

megarowboat:

multifacetedmuse:

megarowboat:

ok art’s, like, not a thing on tfa cybertron (nobody knew what it was in headmaster) but they also have these giant stained glass windows??

does this not count as art or…

You know what, Transformers Animated has so many plot holes for their culture I’ve genuinely spend time thinking about them. For example Blitzwing in episode 11 ‘Lost and Found’ tells Lugnut:

[Lugnut stomps on a lunar rover by mistake]
Blitzwing:  [Hothead] Careful, you copper-clad klutz! You stepped in something!
Blitzwing:  [switches to Random] But with a few dancing lessons, you’ll be light on your stabilizing servos like me! Cha-cha-cha!

So Decepticons have dance, but not music because Megatron calls Sari’s music ‘odd sound patterns’

BUT Rosanna is an Autobot singer: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Rosanna_(Animated) so they have singing as a concept on Cybertron. Does that mean dancing is done to singing back on cybertron? Or is it by some other means?

Also, regarding art, in the official Transformers animated comic, The Arrival, set during the pilot of TFA; Blitzwing is is a public speaker at Megatron’s funeral, and he built a statue to commemorate Megatron, does that not count as art?

I have put too much thought into this cartoon.

same tho,,

ok ok maybe it’s that only younger autobots don’t know what art is. maybe it used to be a thing waaay back when, even before ratchet was around, but then they stopped doing it for some reason. maybe decepticons have a healthy art community.

and—wait, isn’t rosanna a decepticon double agent or something? it’s implied that she’s flip sides, isn’t it? so actually decepticons… should know what music is, right? or was that just not important enough for megatron to teach himself about? maybe cybertronian music is different from earth music or something?

I feel like Cybertron is a place that doesn’t consider any media that honors political figures as “art”. We would consider it art but not Cybertronians. In the TFA Almanac it says that there is an Art division on Cybertron. So probably their definition of art is different from ours. I feel like in every continuity Earth is considered more diverse than Cybertron in terms of art and music.

I dont remember anyone saying Transformers dont have music. Megatron might not consider Sari’s music to be actually music. It’s like when someone hates a certain genre of music so much they don’t consider it music.