Tag: tfp

megarowboat:

lovelylambo:

Which Megatron do you think is better? TFA Megatron or TFP Megatron? 

and no, i’m not talking about art style. I’m talking about personality. Who’s smarter? Who’s stronger? Who is a better leader? 

And if you haven’t watched BOTH TF Animated or TF Prime, please don’t comment because your views are biased if you’re only basting it on what you’ve read or heard. 

*breaks hands*

this is an interesting question (that i found late and then saved to my drafts while typing out a cartoonishly long response) ‘cuz they’re similar in some ways, but different in others (and wow what a vague description; that could apply to anything)

like! take the way that they get people to do what they want. tfp megatron favours brute force. like the way he treats starscream… and when orion pax doesn’t do what he wants, he basically just tells him to shut up—and when that fails, he threatens to beat him into submission. tfa megatron, meanwhile, is still willing to be violent: he’s needlessly rough when he grabs starscream’s wing in the first ep, and he makes an example out of starscream for his other troops upon revival, but his go to is manipulation. a particular case i will bring up bc it’s similar to the orion pax deal is the constructicons. when they start questioning him, megatron starts with force by pinning them to the wall, but he turns on the sweet voice the second he finds out what’s ailing them. and ofc there are all the other earthborns he lied to and manipulated as well.

i mean… both of those strategies work to get ppl to do what they want?? but tfp megatron is also surrounded by far more disloyal subordinates than tfa megs bc he tends to keep them around instead of just Killing Them Instantly. tfa megatron is excellent at making ppl think that helping him will get them exactly what they want, or that he is in the right. tfp megatron might have difficult with that luxury at the time of the show though, because what could he possibly offer when their planet has already died?

but hey! at least tfp megatron SORT OF listens to his subordinates, unlike tfa megatron who Never Takes Their Suggestions Into Account Unless It Means He Can Manipulate Them More. and he surrounds himself with yesmen anyway, lol. what kind of leader doesn’t listen to their people?? aaaand tfp megatron actually goes out and does things, unlike tfa megatron who sits on his throne and makes everyone else do the hard work.

both of their priorities are totally outta whack though!! tfa megatron keeps targeting detroit for no reason and that one time he waited for the defeated autobots to wake up is completely unforgivable. and heckin s/o to tfp megatron’s weird fixation on optimus prime where Nobody Else Is Allowed to kill him. in fact, the fact that they’re orbiting the planet at all and hunting down the autobots to their very last is completely wild, because there’s nothing to fight for anymore! it’s literally just his petty grudge! shouldn’t he focus on rebuilding somewhere else??

personally, i don’t think either of them should be in charge…

#WRITES SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS AND GIVES A COMPLETE NON ANSWER
#megatron’s an bad leader put someone else in charge #tfa megatron’s just rly charismatic it makes him seem smarter than he rly is (via megarowboat)

iopele:

manicpixiedreamdragon:

radio-cybertron:

manicpixiedreamdragon:

obstinate-nocturna:

manicpixiedreamdragon:

“How dare you make me bleed my own blood!”

Megatron you of all people should know better than to insult the Hatchet

#its interesting how Megatron acts like he doesn’t recognize Ratchet as someone he knows personally and I wonder if thats because#he considers him beneath his notice or because he literally doesn’t recognize Ratchet

There are theories – and it’s one of my theories – is that the Dark Energon warped and corrupted Megatron’s processor and possible some of his memory files. If nothing else the constant influence of Unicorn on him means he feels no connection to those he once had positive connection with and/or twists good/positive emotions into negative ones. And the still ‘sane’/’un corrupted’ part of his processor actively suppress some thing to protect those he really doesn’t want to hurt. 

(I wish there was a clear list of what from the Cybertron Games TFP used other than the obvious.)

I think a good portion of it falls in the fact that most of Ratchet’s fighting falls more into the defensive motif, than the offensive. Megatron doesn’t immediately register Ratchet as a threat, possibly for two reasons.

  1. Coding conditioning for all gladiator’s/caste systems could have possibly encoded a no-harm line in their CNA so that medical personnel would not be considered a threat, UNLESS that changes due to the medic attacking. At that point, it becomes self defense.
  2. Or, he simply didn’t consider Ratchet an actual threat- being both healer, and older- he didn’t think he could put up that much of a fight.

And let’s face it- if he didn’t have the extra energon, and the synth-en, there’s a possibility that Megatron would have trounced him more than he did, even with as good a fight as he put up. Ratchet can defend himself damn well, he has to be able to.  Part of taking care of your triage on the ground is making sure they stay alive through the battle.

And yourself along with it.

But when Ratchet went offensive, Megatron probably saw him as the threat he could be- and as thus, treated him as a threat- like he would Prime, or Arcee, or Bumblebee. Ratchet’s marker shifted.

And Ratchet got his ass handed to him.

Which is why, after that– if you notice, Ratchet seemed to gain a lot more injuries after that little fight. 

Don’t get me wrong, Ratchet’s a hardcore old ambulance, and one hell of a medic- but in a fight? He can defend himself for a matter of time against Megatron, but in the end- the other mech’s skill and stamina would get him.

That would also explain why Knock Out gets away with a lot more failure and well everything without injury than say Starscream.

I think both your and mine mete/theory work good together – he calls his Optimus’ medic because any personal connection has been stripped/suppressed and the not considering a threat/etc from what you said.

@rayearthmagic