Today’s covfefe is brought to you by another member of the Trashcan club @robotlovesong13! Here’s a different but equally sexy Megatron 😀 (I’m glad you’ve enjoyed the Robutts and all my wonky WJ faces haha)
[And…that’s it for the covfefe queue! Will be working on Predabutt and Cliffbumper to be bumped up tentatively next week lol]
Which Megatron do you think is better? TFA Megatron or TFP Megatron?
and no, i’m not talking about art style. I’m talking about personality. Who’s smarter? Who’s stronger? Who is a better leader?
And if you haven’t watched BOTH TF Animated or TF Prime, please don’t comment because your views are biased if you’re only basting it on what you’ve read or heard.
*breaks hands*
this is an interesting question (that i found late and then saved to my drafts while typing out a cartoonishly long response) ‘cuz they’re similar in some ways, but different in others (and wow what a vague description; that could apply to anything)
like! take the way that they get people to do what they want. tfp megatron favours brute force. like the way he treats starscream… and when orion pax doesn’t do what he wants, he basically just tells him to shut up—and when that fails, he threatens to beat him into submission. tfa megatron, meanwhile, is still willing to be violent: he’s needlessly rough when he grabs starscream’s wing in the first ep, and he makes an example out of starscream for his other troops upon revival, but his go to is manipulation. a particular case i will bring up bc it’s similar to the orion pax deal is the constructicons. when they start questioning him, megatron starts with force by pinning them to the wall, but he turns on the sweet voice the second he finds out what’s ailing them. and ofc there are all the other earthborns he lied to and manipulated as well.
i mean… both of those strategies work to get ppl to do what they want?? but tfp megatron is also surrounded by far more disloyal subordinates than tfa megs bc he tends to keep them around instead of just Killing Them Instantly. tfa megatron is excellent at making ppl think that helping him will get them exactly what they want, or that he is in the right. tfp megatron might have difficult with that luxury at the time of the show though, because what could he possibly offer when their planet has already died?
but hey! at least tfp megatron SORT OF listens to his subordinates, unlike tfa megatron who Never Takes Their Suggestions Into Account Unless It Means He Can Manipulate Them More. and he surrounds himself with yesmen anyway, lol. what kind of leader doesn’t listen to their people?? aaaand tfp megatron actually goes out and does things, unlike tfa megatron who sits on his throne and makes everyone else do the hard work.
both of their priorities are totally outta whack though!! tfa megatron keeps targeting detroit for no reason and that one time he waited for the defeated autobots to wake up is completely unforgivable. and heckin s/o to tfp megatron’s weird fixation on optimus prime where Nobody Else Is Allowed to kill him. in fact, the fact that they’re orbiting the planet at all and hunting down the autobots to their very last is completely wild, because there’s nothing to fight for anymore! it’s literally just his petty grudge! shouldn’t he focus on rebuilding somewhere else??
personally, i don’t think either of them should be in charge…
Agreed but Tfa meg is a guy you would grab a drink with and be chilled with along with giving you that false sense of safety, morr effective than tge whole ‘orion pax’ thing.
TfA would actually be a better leader on the evil villain scale. Staying behind to motor each mission behind the scenes is actually very smart because one the master mind is still safe in hiding and plans and orders to run the team without any problems. He doesn’t havd to listen to his teammates because they aren’t really viewed as teammates but more as underlings, although it would be more effective to listen he just doesn’t have to.
Tfa meg views his cons as an army so, this is all just one sided. ‘You listen but i don’t have to listen to you’ kinda thing. I only remember Starscream is the only one who wants to be heard the others seem fine with their roles and positions.
Tfp meg, on the other hand is a beautiful idiot. Boof. God, i love him but wmhus methods on some things are just hard to understand and get behind. Tfp meg motivates are run soully on dominance. Power through fighting is the only way for him. You can sit down and talk to him unless he is calm…or you are soundwave but you are indeed right when you say he listens to his teammates because that what he sees them as kinda. Even to starscream, which is good because starscream is smart. He is more open to their opinions which is nice.
Tfp megs is still more reckless and power hungry in a bad way so he isn’t a goid villain in a sense of smarts but he is still a decent leader on the whole team stand point just more fear of you dying when he is enraged.
Better megatron, in my opinion, is TFA Meg. He is smart and think alot of things through. Not reckless like Tfp Meg. Once again, being behind the scenes of the army and being the brain at a safe distance is the best thing to do in this kinda of situation. Him just attack Detroit is also wise. You want to take over a planet. Destroy your main problem so everything else can run smoothly in the future. Bots main base is in Detroit. Get rid of it.
Which Megatron do you think is better? TFA Megatron or TFP Megatron?
and no, i’m not talking about art style. I’m talking about personality. Who’s smarter? Who’s stronger? Who is a better leader?
And if you haven’t watched BOTH TF Animated or TF Prime, please don’t comment because your views are biased if you’re only basting it on what you’ve read or heard.
*breaks hands*
this is an interesting question (that i found late and then saved to my drafts while typing out a cartoonishly long response) ‘cuz they’re similar in some ways, but different in others (and wow what a vague description; that could apply to anything)
like! take the way that they get people to do what they want. tfp megatron favours brute force. like the way he treats starscream… and when orion pax doesn’t do what he wants, he basically just tells him to shut up—and when that fails, he threatens to beat him into submission. tfa megatron, meanwhile, is still willing to be violent: he’s needlessly rough when he grabs starscream’s wing in the first ep, and he makes an example out of starscream for his other troops upon revival, but his go to is manipulation. a particular case i will bring up bc it’s similar to the orion pax deal is the constructicons. when they start questioning him, megatron starts with force by pinning them to the wall, but he turns on the sweet voice the second he finds out what’s ailing them. and ofc there are all the other earthborns he lied to and manipulated as well.
i mean… both of those strategies work to get ppl to do what they want?? but tfp megatron is also surrounded by far more disloyal subordinates than tfa megs bc he tends to keep them around instead of just Killing Them Instantly. tfa megatron is excellent at making ppl think that helping him will get them exactly what they want, or that he is in the right. tfp megatron might have difficult with that luxury at the time of the show though, because what could he possibly offer when their planet has already died?
but hey! at least tfp megatron SORT OF listens to his subordinates, unlike tfa megatron who Never Takes Their Suggestions Into Account Unless It Means He Can Manipulate Them More. and he surrounds himself with yesmen anyway, lol. what kind of leader doesn’t listen to their people?? aaaand tfp megatron actually goes out and does things, unlike tfa megatron who sits on his throne and makes everyone else do the hard work.
both of their priorities are totally outta whack though!! tfa megatron keeps targeting detroit for no reason and that one time he waited for the defeated autobots to wake up is completely unforgivable. and heckin s/o to tfp megatron’s weird fixation on optimus prime where Nobody Else Is Allowed to kill him. in fact, the fact that they’re orbiting the planet at all and hunting down the autobots to their very last is completely wild, because there’s nothing to fight for anymore! it’s literally just his petty grudge! shouldn’t he focus on rebuilding somewhere else??
personally, i don’t think either of them should be in charge…
#WRITES SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS AND GIVES A COMPLETE NON ANSWER #megatron’s an bad leader put someone else in charge #tfa megatron’s just rly charismatic it makes him seem smarter than he rly is (via megarowboat)
It just occurred to me a lot of people look at TFA Optimus and go What A Cinnamon Roll lol. I do enjoy those posts but that’s someone who was ambitious to meet “the enemy,” was a trained soldier, handled danger stoically, and pretty much was ready to kill
Watch the first episode and you will see.
And last episode when he told Megatron he didn’t deserve death. (Death on the battlefield would at least be an honor wouldn’t it. He’s just as ferocious as Megatron.)
my favourite example for “hardcore straight to business things” op does is during transwarped. sari is at their base, recovering from her deadly upgrades as megatron-controlled omega supreme is attacking detroit.
well, megatron’s going to freaking kill them, so optimus tells ratchet to get ready to use this child—this small human child that they have been protecting and caring for for a whole season—and to turn her back into a weapon.
they don’t end up doing this of course, because ratchet is all about his morals, but optimus went right for that. the fact that she was a friend or he would be putting a child into danger had no apparent bearing on his decision at that time. you have no choice but to fight dirty when you’re faced with impossible odds.
and there was that one time bulkhead brought in the constructicons. optimus remarked that he didn’t think that the constructicons were capable of learning anything but pounding more motor oil. there’s that initial distrust and discrimination. he later remarks that they still have a chance to become autobots, but what a contradiction, when he didn’t believe in them in the first place?
you are so right with the way megatron contrasts with optimus in tfa. that’s a thing i didn’t even think about. like… when optimus reaches out to people, it’s genuine, but ultimately stilted and awkward. he means to help with all his spark, but he doesn’t know how to express it. megatron, meanwhile, reaches out perfectly. he tells people exactly what they want to hear as smoothly as silk. but, ultimately, it’s artificial. he doesn’t mean a word.
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