Adhesive I just had the cutest idea
Okay so this started cause I was seeing posts on alot of decepticon behavior and their comparisons to packs and lion prides and im just
Why isn’t there alot of posts on Autobot behaviors?
So I was like if Deceptiocns are more like predators that act like cats/big cats/Dogs/wolves wouldn’t authors technically act more like large preys/predators? Instead of packs they have herds or pods?
Like Whales, and elephants?
I just had this thought of Autobots in the washracks and all the youngest are acting like little kids and spitting cleanser or throwing suds in water. Bath time is social time for all members who had finished their shift. The autobots have a huge communal bath and showers and often help each other clean and tidy up.
Autobots get this reputation of being prude, strict, and distant emotionally from each other but that’s cause decepticons and quite a bit of neutrals actually don’t realize they tend organize socializing so they can they maximum amount of time to be with each other. They also know when to break off into smaller groups for higher survival.
They tend to make cohort groups or bond groups(think like the Rod Squad in this case) that often will go thick or thin with eachother and have developed to knowing other wuoelrks inside jokes ect. The autobots are mostly made up of these bond group and when they come together is almost like a family clan. Bonds group tend to like to integrate new comers and when new comers join this helps build bridges and bonds with other bond groups. (Nautica for example and Velocity ended joining Rodimus bond group and end up binding two smaller bond groups the scientists and medics to Rodimus command group).
But their is also Autobots who don’t have a particular bond group so they hover around others(Trailbreaker and Pipes). Their more like Bull males and tend to be more solitary or join other bull males(Getaway, Atomizer, Blaster). Or the wreckers who members tend to change often.
All Autobot leaders are like closer to a matriarchy Elephants. When the leader is dead or too tired to continue the eldest daughter will lead(Bumblebee leading Cybertron after Optimus left). Autobots leader have this innate need to care and look after others and will often make big groups that can have smaller bonds groups made.(Rodimus and the lost light plus its many cliques)
It’s very typical for much older and wiser mechs to guide younger inexperienced ones. As older ones tend to be effective descions makers.(Ratchet, Magnus, Rung) and also keep younger ones in lime because their cut through the bullshit attitudes tend to tamper their more aggressiveand hothead behaviors. (Tho this doesn’t always work)
Autobots have a very hard time welcoming Decepticons because of this Big Prey vs Predator relationship. Deceptions won’t typically go after the older mature Autobots (the big developed prey) and instead the go for younger weaker bots (the less developed inexperienced prey) cause like big cats it’s much easier.
Newsparks and new Autobots tend to be the center of attention for a while often sticking close to the Autobots who brought them in. This usually lasts until everyone finds a new rhythm with the new addition.
Touch is a big thing, but it more subtle then cuddle piles and hugs. They tend to be more private about affection like hugs and cuddling but more open about hand holding, shoulder bumping and shoulder touching.
And that’s all i got right now.
Oh my god my brain is too fried to add anything right now but ELEPHANT HERD AUTUOBS UNITS YAAAASSSSSSS
Headcanon: Megatron gained a reputation for being utterly fearless in the Kaoni mines and gladiatorial pits because he responds to it with inner stillness, snark and a rogueish grin, and that’s pretty hard to tell apart from his usual asshole self :B
i apologise if im prematurely excited and am reading this wrong, but
has james roberts given us queerplatonic marriage?
has he given us actual ace-spectrum and aro-spectrum representation?
has he given us a form of relationship that is just as valued as conjux endurae, but platonic?? does the mtmte universe recognise a form of queerplatonic marriage that is just as heart-achingly meaningful as romantic marriage??
if so. if so. i cant describe. i cant describe how happy i am
I am in love all over again with robot marriages and now we have confirmed little “elective kin” groups which seem to be little families they make all on their own because they want to be and i’m gonna cry
Imagine your Constructed Cold first Wave bots coming online.
And feeling off, but not being able to put a word on why. That’s because the deep-coding in their spark is different from what kind of frame they have been put in. Code says “no legs, a single wheel to roll on instead, no mouth, just an intake, twig-like arms and 3 fingers” and what they have is two legs, an altmode that flies, lips, and arms that feel bulkier bigger than they should be, five fingers. Asking old mechs about the mechs they refer to as “she”, and get odd, uncomfortable stares at. And deciding to stay quiet about that topic, even if there is a burning curiosity inside.
Feeling disoriented, having to deal with the pre-written information in them, and the first CC bots suffering due to having so much data to adjust to right away. And then the ratioists would adjust the ratio of installed and taught info, and cut as much as they can on the latter when it comes to people who are meant to die. A miner doesn’t need to know how to read, a microscope does not need to know how to fight.
Having trouble just moving, because the spark is in an adult body straight away. There is no growing up, only a young bot in a body too big for him, in a world that wants him to be useful the very moment he’s alive. Stumbling, and being looked at by the pre-natals thinking “this one is going to die quickly”. And that being true, because clumsiness is deadly in the mines. A Seeker unable to fly, because there is no instinct in his deep-coding to help him there. It takes practice to take to the skies, while so many others are naturals.
Constructed Cold bots. Knock-offs, cogs in the machine, substandard.
A Seeker Trine refers to a very common form of gestalt bonding* that’s generally found among fliers who are built for two primary purposes: speed and enhanced sensory awareness- Seekers!** Now with a bunch of history that nobody asked for but I felt needed to be included anyways.
*Gestalt Bonding differs from other kinds of spark-bonding in that members of a gestalt can typically trade overt information or communicate via their bond.
** “Seekers” refers to a range of different frames, but they all tend to share a fairly standard appearance and selection of altmodes and also meet the above criteria. Seekers tended to be incredibly plentiful because for one- they tend to be very useful and relatively power-efficient for fliers, and for two- because Vosnian cold-construction facilities put out seekers like a McDonalds puts out french fries.
That being said, Seeker Trines are initially a cultural aspect. It was considered standard (for lots of historical/cultural reasons, including the fact that 3 is a particularly fortunate number among Cybertronians) particularly in flier-heavy societies to form three-part relationships, both professional and otherwise, and that carried over into military tactics- units were generally grouped into threes. This provides stability and also makes for a nice triangle shape when flying. Very aesthetic.
Earlier in Cybertronian history, Seeker Trines generally weren’t gestalt bonded, but might be amica or conjux who fought together, however gestalt bonding in combat kept proving advantageous- this meant that a unit could trade information instantly and be aware of one another on a spark-deep level, making for uniform behavior and tactics.
Once mass-production became the name of the game, the prospect of creating artificial gestalt bonds with cold sparks opened up a whole new array of possibilities, and it became standard for military seeker units to come pre-bonded and in a convenient package deal. The newely-created constructed sparks are kept in close, continued contact immediately after creation, before they have settled, thus bonding together prior to being placed in prefab shells.
The major seeker trine in TF:Matrix; Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp, is created this way. They have been linked together since moments after creation, and it would take incredible effort upon all their parts to break that link prior to their deaths. They’re pretty much stuck together, even when they don’t like it.
Other forms of gestalt units are created this way, or even made by splicing a single cold spark into multiple sparks, and naturally-forming gestalts do occur (as well as artificially converting mature sparks to part of a gestalt) but the sheer amount of cold-constructed gestalt units, Seeker Trines included, overwhelmed any of these. Trines are some of the most notable, however, as three individuals allows for enough balance that losing one member will not disrupt the function of the other two (as opposed to a two-mechanism gestalt, where losing one tends to render the other incapacitated at best) and it’s also a small enough amount of individuals that they don’t get distracted by their own gestalt, allowing them to stay present in the moment.
For reasons not entirely known, cold-constructed Seeker Trines tend to have particularly strong bonding, possibly an effect of Vosnian construction tactics/pre-programming or mandatory training, and thus they were one of the most commonly purchased form of military cold-constructed through most of Cybertron’s latter history! Seeker trines were everywhere. If they were lucky enough, they paid off their “construction debt” after a time and were free to pursue non-military aspects, but this was particularly rare and it was, unfortunately, in many territories of Cybertron entirely legal to maintain a military contract over them for the duration of their entire functioning.
Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp are an excellent example of how a Trine can function at near-peak efficiency. Despite their differences, their frequent squabbling is more performative than anything else, and their way of relieving stress with each other. In combat, all three tend to operate in unison, processing information between the three of them. Starscream is ultimately analytical in abstract, while Skywarp is action-based, and Thundercracker tends more towards caution and planning. Between the three of them, they can quickly figure out the most efficient way to get a job done.
(It should be noted that, though, as far as Seeker Trines go, they were expensive custom models. Part of a run that was being used to test the capability of creating cold-constructed Outliers – individuals with unusual abilities; IE Skywarp’s ability to transwarp/teleport over distances, Thundercrackers sonic stunning ability, and Starscream…well, we can cover that later.)
would cybertronians even feel the need to develop faster-than-light ships??? They live millions of years. Sure it takes a long time to get places but they also have effective stasis so for million light year journies they can go in stasis?? Like 50 years between stars is barely anything to them. That’s not even bringing space bridges into it (which I’ve elected to use sparingly in protomorph)… But if they do have both space bridges, effective stasis that can extend lifespans, and they live millions of years without using that stasis there’s not actually any incentive to develop FTL travel
I actually think about this a lot. I figure that they were relatively “late” to develop any sort of FTL travel beyond spacebridges because for a long time…what was the point?
Although the first few times Cybertronian explorers came back after millennia travelling only to find out the entire political arena (or geography) of their homeworld had been torn down and rearranged by warfare or invasion it got old real fast. In Matrix, they only adopted true FTL travel (although some shuttleformers and other flying types were capable of transwarp speed naturally) as response to keeping up with the largely shorter-lived but faster interstellar community.
Mostly they just wanted to stop getting invaded by other species who could pop back and forth between their world and Cybertron real fast. The fun gets taken out of warfare if your defensive strike wouldn’t show up until a few millennia after they actually invaded you.
Basically, in Matrix FTL only got popular because of “keeping up with the Joneses” and sheer, pure impatience.
(A common practice prior to this however was sending cyberforming “seeds” or crews to alien worlds using high-cost FTL then launching a more standard ship of future colonists- and in a few thousand years when they arrived the planet would be finished cyberforming and ready for habitation!)
uhhg… First of all why on earth are you so interested in those ghastly beasts… but very well…
From what I have observed Predacons breath is not meant to burn or melt a Cybertronians frame away like some incendiary devices might… because the disgusting beasts would prefer to consume their kill… but rather to cause overheating and sluggishness in their victims to make them easier prey. In short they cook a Cybertronian to weaken our defenses. One of the number one cause of death is often damage to ones coolant systems. If a cybertronian cant manage body temperature they risk processor damage among a host of other ailments.
From examining burns and scorch marks on Starscreams body I was able to determine the type of chemical reactions taking place and I have come to the conclusion that Predacons utilize a pure form of liquid oxygen to enhance their fire breath.
Now you may ask “But Cybertron does not have an oxygenated atmosphere like earth?” Ahh But you see Cybertron does in fact have plentiful oxygen readily available if you can extract it. I theorize that Predacons must have internal acids not only to process and break down their eck~ consumed kills… but also electrical organs that can free oxygen from the metals and rust of our wold.
It’s certainly specialized and the process I wager is unique to the Predacons biology but the chemistry is not uncommon. Cybertronians intake gasses and materials often for the production of key elements within our bodies. Such as hydrogen and nitrogen which are utilized internally in the manufacturing of ammonia that we use within our coolant systems.
The same coolant systems that Predaking wreaked havoc on Starscream when he cooked him half to death!!
As ever, such things tend to vary by continuity. There’s plenty of examples of a bit of a Transformer being removed, and all that’s revealed beneath is a basic mechanical skeletal structure of struts and wires that’s you couldn’t believe is ever supposed to be “exposed” at any time.
In instances like these, human analogies aren’t perfect, but its probably best to think of a Transformer’s armor, or exoskeleton, as their “skin” which goes over their “skeleton” – not something, generally speaking, that they’re supposed to “take off.” Take a look at what’s going on inside Ironhide’s forearm, for instance:
Or these shots of a damaged Megatron from the Marvel comic – you can see there’s no “head” underneath his “helmet,” just internal robotic matter.
Protoforms from Beast Wars suggest something similar – a basic endoskeleton existed at the core of a protoform, but the substance of its outer body, well beyond simple armor, is formed from living liquid metal. The protoforms seen in Transformers: Prime also follow this course – they formatted from featureless mannequins into exact replicas of Starscream, armor and all, all formed from the same living metal as if they were one body.
But you’re quite correct in also recalling an un-armored Overlord in the IDW comics, whose external armor was removed so his endoskeleton could be fused with indestructible ununtrium:
And even Transformers: Animated showed us that certain external parts of a Transformers body were armor that could be harmlessly and painlessly removed like “clothing” – witness helmet-less Bumblebee:
We would later seen that, although protoforms can be brought to life and given form, as seen here with Yoketron:
…in order to be “complete,” rather than this minimalist look, a protoform would have to be placed in a pre-existing “mold” that included certain key parts of the armour, into which it would then grow, filling out the rest of the body (this, then, explains shared body types among robots).
You raise the subject of movie ‘bots, and per the details given in the Transformers: The Movie Guidebook, they seem to rather split the difference between these two ideas. For them, the protoform is the core body of the Transformer, but it generates the robot’s external armor (in accordance with the shape and colour, etc, of the alt mode) from both its own mass, and from any additional matter it can absorb and reformat into living metal.
Similar to that. the Transformers: Shattered Glass prose story “Blitzwing Bop” has noted that Cybertronian technomatter can accept replacement parts and repairs made using conventional metals, plastics, and circuits, because a Transformer’s biology is such that it will break down any such matter and convert it into living metal. It also feels like IDW concept of a spark’s “animating force" factors in here – that’s something that’s only come up in regards to Ultra Magnus, and his spark’s rare ability to animate the very large suit of armor that surrounds his body, but it makes it seems that we can’t think of it just as something that a Transformer “wears,” but something that is genuinely part of them, animated by their lifeforce.
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