i apologise if im prematurely excited and am reading this wrong, but
has james roberts given us queerplatonic marriage?
has he given us actual ace-spectrum and aro-spectrum representation?
has he given us a form of relationship that is just as valued as conjux endurae, but platonic?? does the mtmte universe recognise a form of queerplatonic marriage that is just as heart-achingly meaningful as romantic marriage??
if so. if so. i cant describe. i cant describe how happy i am
I am in love all over again with robot marriages and now we have confirmed little “elective kin” groups which seem to be little families they make all on their own because they want to be and i’m gonna cry
Imagine your Constructed Cold first Wave bots coming online.
And feeling off, but not being able to put a word on why. That’s because the deep-coding in their spark is different from what kind of frame they have been put in. Code says “no legs, a single wheel to roll on instead, no mouth, just an intake, twig-like arms and 3 fingers” and what they have is two legs, an altmode that flies, lips, and arms that feel bulkier bigger than they should be, five fingers. Asking old mechs about the mechs they refer to as “she”, and get odd, uncomfortable stares at. And deciding to stay quiet about that topic, even if there is a burning curiosity inside.
Feeling disoriented, having to deal with the pre-written information in them, and the first CC bots suffering due to having so much data to adjust to right away. And then the ratioists would adjust the ratio of installed and taught info, and cut as much as they can on the latter when it comes to people who are meant to die. A miner doesn’t need to know how to read, a microscope does not need to know how to fight.
Having trouble just moving, because the spark is in an adult body straight away. There is no growing up, only a young bot in a body too big for him, in a world that wants him to be useful the very moment he’s alive. Stumbling, and being looked at by the pre-natals thinking “this one is going to die quickly”. And that being true, because clumsiness is deadly in the mines. A Seeker unable to fly, because there is no instinct in his deep-coding to help him there. It takes practice to take to the skies, while so many others are naturals.
Constructed Cold bots. Knock-offs, cogs in the machine, substandard.
would cybertronians even feel the need to develop faster-than-light ships??? They live millions of years. Sure it takes a long time to get places but they also have effective stasis so for million light year journies they can go in stasis?? Like 50 years between stars is barely anything to them. That’s not even bringing space bridges into it (which I’ve elected to use sparingly in protomorph)… But if they do have both space bridges, effective stasis that can extend lifespans, and they live millions of years without using that stasis there’s not actually any incentive to develop FTL travel
I actually think about this a lot. I figure that they were relatively “late” to develop any sort of FTL travel beyond spacebridges because for a long time…what was the point?
Although the first few times Cybertronian explorers came back after millennia travelling only to find out the entire political arena (or geography) of their homeworld had been torn down and rearranged by warfare or invasion it got old real fast. In Matrix, they only adopted true FTL travel (although some shuttleformers and other flying types were capable of transwarp speed naturally) as response to keeping up with the largely shorter-lived but faster interstellar community.
Mostly they just wanted to stop getting invaded by other species who could pop back and forth between their world and Cybertron real fast. The fun gets taken out of warfare if your defensive strike wouldn’t show up until a few millennia after they actually invaded you.
Basically, in Matrix FTL only got popular because of “keeping up with the Joneses” and sheer, pure impatience.
(A common practice prior to this however was sending cyberforming “seeds” or crews to alien worlds using high-cost FTL then launching a more standard ship of future colonists- and in a few thousand years when they arrived the planet would be finished cyberforming and ready for habitation!)
Am I the only one that would be super interested in seeing a tf continuation that had humans be in space with the cybertronians rather than stuck on earth? I just feel like the interactions could be super interesting if done right
And by done right I mean none of that cappy “woe is me I’m a human in space make the whole story line revolve around me” and more “I’M STUCK IN SPACE WITH THESE GIANT IDIOTS AND I NEED TO TAKE THE BIGGEST DUMP EVER BUT THEY DON’T HAVE ANY FUCKING TOILETS SO I HAVE TO ASK THEIR FUCKING MEDIC TO HELP ME F U C K” and there’s culture shock on both sides and maybe go into why a lot of cybertronians were(are?) anti-organic
Plus for once it would be the humans adjusting rather than the autobots. I could see some of the bots are super confused on how the humans are able to adapt so quickly until they’re pointed out to the fact that cybertronians have had a very slow inclination for evolution because of their life spans while humans perish rather fast so they evolved and adapted in a couple million years to where they are now
There’s a capability for some really cool and potentially hilarious interactions and I just!!!! Want to see this explored!!!!
I’m just all about that human/robot interaction when it’s done in an interesting manner
uhhg… First of all why on earth are you so interested in those ghastly beasts… but very well…
From what I have observed Predacons breath is not meant to burn or melt a Cybertronians frame away like some incendiary devices might… because the disgusting beasts would prefer to consume their kill… but rather to cause overheating and sluggishness in their victims to make them easier prey. In short they cook a Cybertronian to weaken our defenses. One of the number one cause of death is often damage to ones coolant systems. If a cybertronian cant manage body temperature they risk processor damage among a host of other ailments.
From examining burns and scorch marks on Starscreams body I was able to determine the type of chemical reactions taking place and I have come to the conclusion that Predacons utilize a pure form of liquid oxygen to enhance their fire breath.
Now you may ask “But Cybertron does not have an oxygenated atmosphere like earth?” Ahh But you see Cybertron does in fact have plentiful oxygen readily available if you can extract it. I theorize that Predacons must have internal acids not only to process and break down their eck~ consumed kills… but also electrical organs that can free oxygen from the metals and rust of our wold.
It’s certainly specialized and the process I wager is unique to the Predacons biology but the chemistry is not uncommon. Cybertronians intake gasses and materials often for the production of key elements within our bodies. Such as hydrogen and nitrogen which are utilized internally in the manufacturing of ammonia that we use within our coolant systems.
The same coolant systems that Predaking wreaked havoc on Starscream when he cooked him half to death!!
As ever, such things tend to vary by continuity. There’s plenty of examples of a bit of a Transformer being removed, and all that’s revealed beneath is a basic mechanical skeletal structure of struts and wires that’s you couldn’t believe is ever supposed to be “exposed” at any time.
In instances like these, human analogies aren’t perfect, but its probably best to think of a Transformer’s armor, or exoskeleton, as their “skin” which goes over their “skeleton” – not something, generally speaking, that they’re supposed to “take off.” Take a look at what’s going on inside Ironhide’s forearm, for instance:
Or these shots of a damaged Megatron from the Marvel comic – you can see there’s no “head” underneath his “helmet,” just internal robotic matter.
Protoforms from Beast Wars suggest something similar – a basic endoskeleton existed at the core of a protoform, but the substance of its outer body, well beyond simple armor, is formed from living liquid metal. The protoforms seen in Transformers: Prime also follow this course – they formatted from featureless mannequins into exact replicas of Starscream, armor and all, all formed from the same living metal as if they were one body.
But you’re quite correct in also recalling an un-armored Overlord in the IDW comics, whose external armor was removed so his endoskeleton could be fused with indestructible ununtrium:
And even Transformers: Animated showed us that certain external parts of a Transformers body were armor that could be harmlessly and painlessly removed like “clothing” – witness helmet-less Bumblebee:
We would later seen that, although protoforms can be brought to life and given form, as seen here with Yoketron:
…in order to be “complete,” rather than this minimalist look, a protoform would have to be placed in a pre-existing “mold” that included certain key parts of the armour, into which it would then grow, filling out the rest of the body (this, then, explains shared body types among robots).
You raise the subject of movie ‘bots, and per the details given in the Transformers: The Movie Guidebook, they seem to rather split the difference between these two ideas. For them, the protoform is the core body of the Transformer, but it generates the robot’s external armor (in accordance with the shape and colour, etc, of the alt mode) from both its own mass, and from any additional matter it can absorb and reformat into living metal.
Similar to that. the Transformers: Shattered Glass prose story “Blitzwing Bop” has noted that Cybertronian technomatter can accept replacement parts and repairs made using conventional metals, plastics, and circuits, because a Transformer’s biology is such that it will break down any such matter and convert it into living metal. It also feels like IDW concept of a spark’s “animating force" factors in here – that’s something that’s only come up in regards to Ultra Magnus, and his spark’s rare ability to animate the very large suit of armor that surrounds his body, but it makes it seems that we can’t think of it just as something that a Transformer “wears,” but something that is genuinely part of them, animated by their lifeforce.
((Due to the fact that shuttles are programmed to spend a lot of time isolated, they don’t form very many strong connections. Instead, they make up for it with a lot of ‘weaker’ connections. I’ll be going into it a lot more in depth when I do my Seeker Headcanon, but the short version is there are a lot of mechs Skyfire wants to shove under his wings like a mother hen, and a couple others he wants to keep an optic on so they don’t hurt themselves))