Arms dealing in TFA is often held up as a special kind of evil. Isaac Sumdac flat-out refuses to have his firm manufacture weapons; the fact that Porter C. Powell wants to do so helps cement his status as the villain. The Autobots themselves also seem to…
It’s more than ‘almost’ a point of pride, if I’m interpreting Ratchet’s opinion in the Almanac correctly. And now I’m wondering if their reason for the rejection is related to the formation of the Decepticons’ predecessors – TFA uses the ‘Cons were warbuilds’ backstory, so the use of traditional weapons would probably be a bitter reminder of their betrayal. Ratchet seemed really averse to the idea of Autobots using weapons, and I reckon it’s a long-standing thing from right back when the Malignus (military, so weapons!) caste tried to overthrow the Guardians.
Interesting! I haven’t read the Allspark Almanac, but I did know about the ‘Cons being warbuilds, and that makes a lot of sense. Almost a racial divide; we’ll wage war if we have to, but traditional weapons are symbolic of Them.
Arms dealing in TFA is often held up as a special kind of evil. Isaac Sumdac flat-out refuses to have his firm manufacture weapons; the fact that Porter C. Powell wants to do so helps cement his status as the villain. The Autobots themselves also seem to take this view. In “S.U.V. – Society of Ultimate Villainy”, they go for Swindle with a vengeance, despite the fact that they’ve never even met him before, just on the grounds that he’s an arms dealer who’s willing to do business with Megatron. And it clearly isn’t just a case of, “We have to prevent Megatron from getting his hands on this weapon” – it comes across as personal, bordering on vicious. Hell, at the end of the episode, it’s heavily implied that the ‘Bots are going to let the police rip Swindle apart while he’s alive and conscious. Most of the Autobots themselves seem to prefer modified construction or other civilian equipment to straight-up weaponry, almost as if it’s a point of pride.
And this was my thought: how much of this prejudice against weapons is actually an expression of their attitudes towards the Decepticons, who are living weapons?
there One thing I find interesting about Overlord is his lack of anger and other emotions, or at least his lack of expressing it.
Overlord is a very aloof, calm villain. Even when his optic is damaged, he is more amused then anything. In most media, bodily harm is usually what makes even a calm villain’s facade crack. But Overlord just grins and goads them.
Enemies are for the most part nothing more but annoyances. The closest i can recall him expressing being angry is when he has been reduced to a flaming skeleton, even then its almost like he is more annoyed, and scolds the Wreckers like they are children who got his tuxedo dirty. “How dare you reduce me to this. If Megatron comes i will be unpresentable.”
This is true for many emotions. Overlord is heavily subdued. Almost like its hard for him to express them, or he merely chooses not to. We know he does feel things. He falls into a depressive, vegetative-like state when he thinks Megatron is dead, and his fear when triggered is crippling. I also notice when people do things that bother him he gets this blank look or stare before he reacts. When Megatron says he either does as told or died, he gets that look. When Shockwave calls him out on his reasons for taking Garrus 9 he gets it.
There are a few reasons for this.
Overlord simply is not someone who expresses his emotions, and chooses to hide behind a veil of calm in order to further emphasize how terrifying he is or to mask any faults in his character. (Very Likely)
Overlord was conditioned to not express himself by others so he will just do his work with a calm, almost pleasant attitude. Either the functionalists taught him that, or Megatron beat it into him. (Not that Likely)
Overlord’s emotions are naturally dulled and muted after his upgrades. He is increasingly detached from his ‘humanity’, for a lack of a better word, due to how powerful he has become. it takes extreme situations to make him feel enough to express them in any meaningful way. Similar to Saitama from One Punch Man. (Very likely and somewhat supported, as Sixshot has similar issues connecting with others due to his upgrades)
Anyway… Sorry for rambling i just find Overlord very interesting.
In Transformers: Prime we know several things about Primes, but very little is actually explicitly stated, so I wanted to gather up some pieces to make a point.
My understanding based on the series is that Prime is an institution of its own, a totally independent and limitless position of power above and outside all other institutions of power in Cybertronian society.
Primes are leaders. Exceptional individuals who wield great powers, like mythical swords and the Matrix. Optimus seems to have become unquestioningly the leader of the entire Autobot army just by being a Prime. He has the final word in everything, he is the highest ranking bot in every situation, he can call on his entire species like call them home or to battle, and he also is the spokeperson for them, considering he has made first contact with humans on Earth. There’s no question of the absolute, tremendous power that a Prime has.
In the end of the first season, Ratchet explains to the children how Optimus came to be a Prime in the first place, and he mentions that Megatron and Orion went to see the High Council, the governing power of Cybertron. High Council, as far as we know, is the government with power to make laws, but considering how concentrated Cybertron’s power was in their previous system, we can easily make the assumption that the High Council is also the court system, and most likely the law enforcement is also under it. Ratchet tells the children that Megatron went there to make demands and be named the next Prime, but that Orion was “truly worthy” of the title before the Council.
However, I argue that the Council is completely irrelevant in this matter. Based on Ratchet’s description they seem to be the ones to *see a worth of true Prime* or *give away a title*, but based on all the other things that we know of Primes, I say that the Council can merely make a recommendation of some sort. In other words, they can name a candidate, a bot who may set out to test if they can become a Prime. The High Council doesn’t make the decision who becomes a Prime, but who may try, and even that might be a formality with no real power behind it.
Only Primus himself can truly appoint a Prime.
We know that Primus created the first thirteen Primes, the now mythical first creations, the ones before everything, and all other Primes that came after them are the same. During the Unicron arc of TFP the “power of a Prime” is brought up, and later again when the Starsaber is introduced. The power of a Prime is not just Optimus’ skill in battle (albeit considerable), or just his physical strength, it’s something that allows him to defeat the Chaos-Bringer, Primus’ counterpart, and wield mythical weapons left behind by the previous Primes. It comes from within him, and manifests itself in pure energy.
We know that this power comes from the Matrix of Leadership, and that the Matrix was granted to Optimus directly by Primus after he went to Cybertron’s core to face him. This is also the instant that Orion Pax changes his name to Optimus Prime, as well as gets an upgrade, transforming an ordinary bot into a Prime. Even though we are led to believe (by Ratchet’s narration) that Orion was named a Prime by the Council, we are very clearly shown that the actual transformation into a Prime happened before Primus.
Now, based on this I argue that the institution of a Prime is entirely separate from all other bodies of power. It is divine, and since only Primus can make someone a Prime, it would make sense to think that only Primus can unmake a Prime.
It is a position of absolute leadership, granted by Primus. There are no rules or laws for a Primes.
Prime is independent, unchecked, unchallenged and absolute.
Apparently Prowl’s face resembles the face of Primus
[They are not talking about Prowl. I’m just saying.]
In earlier comics, the symbol is referred to as the “First Face.” It’s talked about in Spotlight: Orion Pax. It’s basically the Cybertronian equivalent of the generic yellow smiley face—in the way that the generic smiley face is supposed to represent any/every human, the First Face is supposed to represent every Cybertronian. Which is specifically why the Autobots took that symbol, because it represents “everyone.”
Since the symbol is ancient and well-known enough for the Autobots to deliberately adopt it for its “it’s everyone” meaning, my headcanon is that Prowl, being cold constructed, was designed to have a deliberately bland “looks like anyone else” face. Like those images where a thousand different photos of human faces are averaged together to create a single vaguely attractive but extremely generic face—Prowl’s face is the Cybertronian equivalent of that. Which is why his face looks similar to the face that looks like “everyone.”
Interesting if that means there’s a huge batch of bland-looking mass-produced cold constructed bots wandering around that, accidentally, have godly-looking faces.
I don’t know how comfortable I am with the realisation that energon mined from Cybertron is Primus’s life blood, and that Cybertronians could be drinking the literal essence of their God. And because none of that is ever replenished because of Primus’ dormancy, they’re sucking a god dry.
But Primus made them that way. He made them drink His own blood. He ultimately made them to fight against Unicron. He sacrificed Himself for the greater good. For His children to prosper and become a force to be reckoned. yo
im luaghing at the thoguht of when the autobot cadets go in to get weighed, eveeryone has weights respective to their body size but Longarm is 2-3 times heavier than what he should be because of his actual shockwave form being stored in his deceptively small form like
Longarm is knocked out by a weapon and someone has to drag his arse off the field but can’t because he as heavy as a Decepticon.
they say if you can lift longarm, you’ve got a good chance of matching physical strengths with the cons
double agent suspected in the higher ranks and no one decides to investigate the one bot too heavy for his own body
longarm’s just like “haha guys very funny” but inside he //sweats nervously//
Am I the only one who thinks TFA Megatron is TFP Optimus with a slight moral tweak?
I mean, both are capable leaders who managed to keep up an underdog resistance for millions of years, both are respected by their people, both directed attacks that would probably be considered war crimes if they lost, and both value Cybertron more than victory.
As for who wins? I’m gonna go with the guy that got NUKED IN THE FACE and kept fighting.
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